Saturday, December 31, 2011

"Try to Guess WHO I AM, - DON’T PEEK."

FW: Sharing: "Try to Guess WHO I AM, - DON’T PEEK." (...political, 'humour'-?)

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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:19:41 -0500
Subject: Try to Guess WHO I AM DON’T PEEK.
From: mrxristidis@gmail.com
To: oregdan@hotmail.com

Try to  Guess WHO I AM DON’T PEEK.

I was born in one country, raised in  another. My father was born in another country. I was not his only  child. 

He  fathered several children with numerous women.*I became very close to my  mother, as my father showed no interest in me. 
My  mother died at an early age from cancer. I became close with my  grandmother.

Later  in life, questions arose over my real name.My birth records were sketchy  and no one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth  certificate.
I grew up practicing one  faith but converted to Christianity, as it  was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs & didn't  follow Christianity, except in the public  eye under scrutiny.

I worked and lived among lower-class people  as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about  them.
That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my  life and I embarked on a new career.
I wrote a book about my  struggles growing up. It was clear to those who read my memoirs that I  had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a  child.

I became active in local politics in my 30's then with help  behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for  national office in my 40s. 

They  said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything. That  reinforced my conceit.

I had a virtually non-existent resume,  little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker and  citizens were drawn to me as though I were a magnet and they were small  roofing tacks.
I drew incredibly large crowds during my public  appearances. This bolstered my ego.

At first, my political  campaign focused on my country's foreign policy. I was very critical of  my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to bash my  country. But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views  on the country's economy. I pretended to have a really  good plan on how we could do better and every poor person would be fed  & housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for  getting us into this mess. It was the free market, banks &  corporations. I decided to start making citizens hate them and if they  were envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.I  called mine "A People's Campaign" and that sounded good to all  people.
I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside  the traditional path of politics & was able to gain widespread  popular support.

I knew that, if I merely offered the people  'hope', together we could change our country and the world.
So, I  started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include  "persecuted minorities" like the Jews.  

My true  views were not widely known & I needed to keep them unknown, until  after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard  reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed,  if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I  associated with. I'm glad they didn't. Then, I became the most powerful  man in the world. And the world learned the truth.

*Who am I? *  (Don't miss  below)
















I  am . . . ADOLF HITLER.

WHO WERE YOU THINKING OF?
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Wednesday, December 28, 2011

REMATCH WAS HELD IN BETHLEHEM

FW: Limited Sharing:"THE REMATCH WAS HELD IN BETHLEHEM THIS YEAR" (not pleasant news, but 'normal' for there)-

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Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:56:49 -0500
Subject: THE REMATCH WAS HELD IN BETHLEHEM THIS YEAR
From: mrxristid
To: oregdan@hotmail.com

Or is this just a warm up for Pascha this year ?
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/clerics-clash-in-bethlehem-brawl-at-jesus-birthplace/1

Monday, December 26, 2011

MP Serves Pannihida for Dictator

General Sharing:":MP Serves Pannihida for Dictator" (Kim Jon-il)-!!!.of Thrice-Sorry Memory!

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FOR ALL TO BEHOLD: What Godless and antiChristian regimes do!

Can be read on: http://remnantrocor.blogspot.com
http://remnantrocor.blogspot.com/2011/12/mp-serves-pannikhida-for-dictator.html
( taken from Vertograd):

Comment: If this isn't but more proof, of what and who the 1943-Stalin created, 'Moscow Patriarchate' serves, what is it?

And, what about a pannihida or even some slight public sympathy, for the MILLIONS of poor innocent North Koreans, and those of other nationalities they have imprisoned and killed, that this monster and his father and their GODLESS regime, have murdered or starved or tortured to death????
Also, we learn from many other sources, that that, evil God and man hating stalinist communist regime, 'executes Christians", every day.
Do we Orthodox not care, just because most of them are Protestants or Catholics?
Shame on Putin and his fellow KGB gangster, 'Patriarch Kyrill-Gundaev'!!!
SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!....and SHAME on Met. Hilarion-Kapral and his Kremlin captive ROCOR/MP!!!, for being in league with those Kremlin neo-soviet monsters and liars and God-haters!...who bless mass murderers who starve and torture their people, to death....by the millions.
With great disgust!
Rd. Daniel Everiss

P.S. Isn't it overdue, for ALL the laity and clergy under Hilarion-Kapral, to flee him & his synod, and his stooge 'church' which is nothing but a tool, since that foul & false, 'reunion' of 2007,  of a foreign enemy power to both, true Orthodoxy, Russia,  and America???...via, this false version of The Russian Church, the so-called Moscow Patriarchy, created by Joseph Stalin, with his stooge, Sergius Stragorodsky, BOTH,  of Thrice-Sorry Memory, in 1943, and which organization is STILL not free from KGB Kremlin control, from the top down.
Wake up, our former ROCOR brothers and sisters! WAKE UP!

 

Sunday, August 14, 2011

Why I must totally reject so-called, 'Western Rite Orthodoxy'

Why I must totally reject so-called, 'Western Rite Orthodoxy' for anyone or anywhere-IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!!& It is now an ecumenist Trojan Horse-

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To: Dan Everiss <oregdan@hotmail.com>

To all: (& please forgive any spelling or typo errors)-

I have been resisting making this collection &  declaration of some of  my own beliefs and impressions and of what all, I know, on this very current and very contentious subject,...i.e. so-called, 'Western Rite Orthodoxy', which is causing much confusion and arguments among Orthodox, especially precipitated by the Moscow-dependent ROCOR/MP's on-going and triumphalistic & 'missionary' excuses for their  reception of many such 'Western Rite' clergy and advocates, while their Mother Church, the KGB run MP is engaged in more and more outrageous ecumenist betrayal, especially towards Rome..( the very epi- center of the real historic,  'Roman Rite', Western Rite),.. which, they clearly are rapidly moving towards, union with, as is also EP Bartholomew.

I do not pretend to be an expert on all things Orthodox. But, for most of my 67 years, I have been a sincere Orthodox Christian layman. My only qualifications, to write down and to  share  these observations and opinions of mine, are  that I have been a sincere Orthodox Christian since age 17, I have studied and read much & discussed with others,  on most aspects of our ancient and complicated faith, I have personally spoken with various historical figures or those who directly knew them, and I have myself, witnessed many things, good and bad, in present day Orthodox church life. And, I am not stupid! I use the mind that the Good Lord gave me!

And, I CARE about the truth of things and what is good or harmful to our church and people, ...i.e. what works or DOES NOT WORK,  pastorally, on the local level, so to speak

Thus too, I care about genuine missionary outreach and serious efforts to bring more souls to Orthodoxy and to God.. I believe in true Orthodox missionary work.

So, in as a concise manner as I can, here are some of my main thoughts on this difficult subject:

1) all Orthodox liturgical worship, began in Jerusalem, and what they did there in the first century or thereabouts, where they weekly went physically to each PLACE where Jesus had walked and suffered and died and rose, and re-enacted those sacred events. the Holy Week agenda.

This basic, Jerusalem worship, was copied and spread throughout the whole Christian world, east and west and south and north, it was UNIVERSAL.

It was mostly done in Greek or Latin, but in the later monastic movement, the Coptic language was also used in those monasteries with mixed ethnic members, etc. And gradually, it began to be performed in some local languages, east and west.

2) gradually, in each local region or nation, local differences in calendar, rituals, church disciplines and simply CUSTOMS connected to the worship or the local application of Orthodox life-principals, became...varied. Much  of those differences, depended on the exact pre-Christian local pagan cultures.

3) and, gradually, east and west, there....naturally developed.....an amalgamation/unification/simplification  process.... liturgically, a natural CENTRALIZATION.

In the west, the Roman Rite ( how things were done in the Holy City of Old Rome), gradually replaced virtually all the local 'rites', and was often FORCED upon the locals. That development occured, before 1054, but continued after the Latin Schism.

In the east, Byzantium, the Constantinopolitan Rite (what was done in the capital city and in the  Emperor's St. Sophia Cathedral) gradually supplanted and replaced most local eastern diocesan rituals of worship, and became the norm for liturgical worship in the Eastern Roman Empire. But it was not 'Eastern' , it was simply, what was done in the Emperor's Church, and was a compendium of all the earlier Christian worship-mainly from Jerusalem, plus taking heavily from the monastic worship practices.

4) these liturgical ...developments...according to what our church teaches,( the same as for the doctrinal expressions and the iconography and other aspects of our faith), was....guided by the Holy Spirit, BECAUSE WE ORTHODOX firmly believe that our Holy religion is a divinely revealed religion, and not man-made! ...& they expressed 'The Mind of The Church', and were a blessed and totally natural development.......So this amalgamation of the liturgical worship, was seen as BLESSED and not in any way, some sort of wrong or evil suppression of local or quaint folk-customs, etc. ....as now many advocates of the Western Rite, seem to suggest. Nor as some 'layering' of novel additions to the Early PURE Church worship'...which the mistaken later Protestants felt that THEY alone, had 'recovered'...i.e. by throwing out most of the rituals and worship of centuries!

5) also, as gradually occurred, there was a ...liturgical expanding...of the worship, from the earliest Christian worship which was mostly a Hebraic style of worship, chanting of the Psalms, to the addition of the poetic Kontakia of St. Romanus the Sweetsinger...i.e. our Orthodox liturgical worship was always expanding and developing and was ALIVE and in movement., and centered in the monastery worship.

6) as time went on, with the great growth and wide accepting of the Monastic Institution, what was liturgically done in famous old coenobitic monasteries, became the norm for each national Orthodox Church, which used that 'Typicon' of a particular monastery. That was what happened in the east, but in the west, I am not certain.

7) worship expresses belief/doctrine. That is very Orthodox. That is exactly why, we should fear, to change our worship. This Western Rite three-ring circus, does change it. Isn't that what the ecumenist betrayers of our faith, want? I really think so.

8) then came the ...process...of the splitting of the west  away from the Universal Church, culminating in the official separation date of 1054 AD.

9) we Orthodox, believe that at that event, the west ...lost grace, and it...gradually became debased and disfigured in all aspects of it's church life, including it's worship. It had fallen into many heresies, papal-supremacy among it's chief sins. It's worship reflects these heresies.

10) over the long sad centuries since that western schism, the Latin Roman-Rite, west has attacked our Orthodox people and church, by many vile and evil means: wars of invasion and occupation, destruction of Orthodox churches and holy places and holy things, and finally by their trickery of their satanic, 'Unia'..i.e. allowing (conquered and suppressed), Orthodox populations to keep our peculiar and strange 'Eastern Rites',& even our married priests keeping their wives, ( for awhile anyway!), while being 100% submitted to their despicable Pope, 'The Vicar of Christ', and all their Romish skullduggery and power machinations, and being gradually Latinized, bit by bit, removing/changing/CORRUPTING our peculiar 'Eastern' worship  (in reality, our 
UNIVERSAL Christian worship of the ages before the Latin Schism!) in favour of their, debased,  pure Roman Rite...i.e. the process of ..becoming 'good Roman Catholics.' 

11) so, why, today, long after all that has transpired since 1054,  should we Orthodox accept as somehow normal or right, this 'Western Rite' experiment?...this foreign invasion of our sacred temples and worship?

In 1962, I met and spoke with Fr. Alexander Turner, the head of the Antiochean Western Rite endeavour, blessed by Met. Anthony-Bashir, who gave me THE main theoretical underpinning as to, why have a Western Rite?, in Orthodoxy:

He said: "The western mind cannot  comprehend the Eastern Rituals. The Western mind, needs a Western Rite!"

To me, who came from mainstream American Protestantism, I had a hard time translating his message. He clearly was referring to former Roman Catholics or high church Episcopalian converts to Orthodoxy, I suppose...who were used to the R.C. Roman rite or variations of it. But to me, a converted Protestant, who was taught from early Sunday school, that ALL connected to the hated & evil  church of Rome, was of the devil, and most especially their ritualistic worship. What Fr. A. Turner said, was gibberish, and nonsense, back in 1962, and it is still nonsense NOW.

To the Protestant mind, rituals separate men from God!

And, it didn't help his arguments, when I viewed his very barren, iconoclastic church, a sea of pews, but  which was exactly, like a stark and drab life-less  Presbyterian church...no icons (or statues) or any religious art, and NO parishioners., and no real ALTAR EITHER. The man was a heretic!!..and this was what Met. Anthony Bashir blessed, to steal back people from the Pope, etc.(!!!)...his deplorable, reverse-uniatism.

And, by the way, when Met. Anthony had his Western Rite priests perform their strange  liturgy at his Antiochean convention for his Arab flock  to see it, when an Arab woman was given the communion in her mouth by 'intinction' by the fingers of the priest, she then SPAT it out onto the floor, exclaiming, 'THAT! is NOT communion!"

Most Orthodox Arabs, as with most born Orthodox, utterly reject this monstrosity called, 'The Western Rite'. And, we converts to Orthodoxy, also, by-in-large also, reject it.
Former Protestants,...most raised to be essentially, anti-ritual anyway!, are NOT attracted to anything Orthodox, because it resembles...anything...Catholic!!!

12) Now, I come to a big pro-Western Rite argument: that a saint, St. John Maximovitch blessed it, so how can anything that a saint blessed, be...wrong?..i.e. and if anyone now, speaks against any Western Rite, he is going against  a saint, and thus against God Himself!!!

Folks, fellow Orthodox: ONLY GOD IS PERFECT and makes no errors!

Every saint in our church's history, did and said SOME things amiss, he or she made...mistakes, & also sinned,  some of which had to later be condemned by church councils.

In our Orthodox Church, the phrase, 'The Mind of the Church' is a paramount reality, in determining, long-term, what is correct or in error.

I submit, that that 1978 Synodal condemnation of the Western Rite, did exactly...not condemn St. John himself, but it DID condemn his Western Rite experiment....which was a failure. Such liturgical experiments today, continue to be, FAILURES, except for the enemies of our faith, who only wish to divide and destroy us. Our Orthodox Worship, which is UNIVERSAL! is one of the few realities that bind us. WHY dump it, in favour of these strange exotic rituals, dug up and re-constructed according to various unbalanced peoples' whims???

And for anyone today, to MISUSE a saint, to provide underpinning for their unOrthodox practices, which only divide the faithful, and which give joy to our enemies, and help the pro-ecumenist cause, ...is in itself an abomination.

OH, Our Holy St. John Maximovitch, PRAY TO GOD FOR US!...and enlighten us by your holy prayers, to know and to do what pleases God and not man. 

SHAME on all who continue to defend this unOrthodox 'Western Rite'  invasion of our Holy Church and it's Holy UNIVERSAL worship.!

St. John was a great missionary,and he wanted to save souls!,  and it appears that his main thrust in blessing that French Gallican church, was in response to those French people's request and appeal to him. His intentions were pure and saintly, without any doubt! But, I believe that St. John mainly blessed that French experiment for FRANCE, with it's ancient history of it's own native Catholic worship and customs, etc.and that he did not expect it to be world wide. 

St. John blessed some theories, and past things in past centuries....which today, do NOT work! He made a mistake, he was wrong in his blessing something which now, has come to be a major harm to Orthodox people, world-wide. But. St. John's antiquarian liturgical experiment, did not, and cannot have universal appeal or missionary usefulness, today, in this modern utterly chaotic world situation, when we verge on total world-wide apostasy from our Apostolic Faith. It is just no good here in America, for one place. I have witnessed how much harm it does, and how much delusion it causes.

But, of course, we Orthodox accept as true saints,...as did St. John,  those pre-schism western saints, as those saints are OUR saints, not fallen-away  Rome's!

13) just look at WHO, today,  is now promoting this Western Rite (which, by the way, there is no ONE Western Rite, but as many different mishmash & fantastic rituals as there are those who in their personal whims, perform such bizarre rituals!)...and just see what are their true motives...such as the KGB controlled MP in Moscow, or the EP, or whomever. Their aims, are not holy and not Orthodox!

14) As a convert to Orthodoxy, I declare: NO ONE! 'needs' any other rite or worship ustav, but our standard universal ORTHODOX RITE, but yes, we need our worship to be in our own native languages. And, contrary to Western Rite critics of our Orthodox worship, it DOES have many natural local variations already, from country to country and from national ustavs, the chants used, and customs connected to the church life, etc. We HAVE variety!!!

Our Orthodox Worship is THE universal Christian worship, of east and west and of all ages, and we DARE not adopt long disused or dead & concocted or contrived  western forms of ritual or prayers, of those who long ago departed from our church and have made war on us, for many many centuries now.

15) Any Orthodox who have been beguiled by 'Western Rites,'... they  need to flee from them and the bishops & clergy who perform or who  permit them, and renounce them, and just HUMBLY read and study and USE our HOLY Standard Orthodox worship, but only in their understandable native tongues.

16) for prospective converts to Orthodoxy, to come to our church's  door, demanding WE change things in our HOLY religion, to suit their heterodox or pagan tastes, is IMPOSSIBLE!

Fellow Orthodox!  I could go on and on, but I will stop here on this subject.

The so-called, 'Western Rites-S!" are an abomination TODAY, and are a Trojan Horse, meant to destroy our religion, from within.

Let those who want such strange, NOW in this present day, unOrthodox rituals, stay outside our church, and be honest about it.

Because, in many cases, such people do not accept our dogmas or doctrines or our ecclesiology. They have made up their own private versionS, of their-personal-'Orthodoxy'.

So, how? can they be fellow, 'Orthodox' believers???

Just my thoughts.....
Rd. Daniel Everiss in Oregon

Monday, August 1, 2011

SIR has nothing to do with vigante Milan synod

Private sharing: Questions & answers, to & from SIR Archb. Chrysostomos of Etna, regarding 'Milan Synod' and various clergy connected with it, and their real or imagined relationship with the SIR, etc.

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Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:49:59 -0700
To: sgpm@sisqtel.net
From: bpaux@ctosonline.org

God bless you. I am passing on the following from His Eminence, Archbishop Chrysostomos. He asked me to read it and distribute it as I saw fit. I would ask you not to send responses to this. It is, as H.E. says, simply informational.

Least among monks, + Bishop Auxentios


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TO: Exarchate Clergy, Faithful, and Friends
FROM: Bishop Auxentios

Evlogia Kyriou. May God bless you.

The following note was sent to me by an Orthodox clergymen I (serving in a modernist jurisdiction) from one of his correspondents, a layman in a "traditionalist" group not in communion with our Church. As I have emphasized in other mailings, I have chosen of late to ignore vulgar and unedifying messages sent to me, even when they involve misrepresentations of the historical record and matters of distorted fact. However, the issues here are of such an egregiously foul nature as to demand a word of response, despite my reticence.

My comments are interspersed amidst excerpts from the text of the note in question, I have made necessary deletions with regard to inappropriate personal slurs and inapposite or irrelevant observations.

It goes without saying that my comments are informational and directed addressed to the clergyman  who sent them and to those of you whom I have copied. The writer of the note will not receive a response. That would be a fruitless effort.

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Now the real story: Monk Cyprian and Monk Chrysostom consecrated Evloghy of Milan synod after   persistent accusations of simony..

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Our Synod of Bishops did not, in fact, consecrate Metropolitan Evlogy. He petitioned our Synod for reception on grounds of conscience; namely, that he could not accept the extremist ecclesiology of the Old Calendar group that actually Consecrated him. I was, incidentally, not a Bishop at the time of his reception.

The issue of "simony," given the "real story," is obviously ludicrous.
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 They knew that he was a [deletion] but didn't care because they were empire-building.

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We receive (or ordain and consecrate) clergy into the Synod of Resistance on the basis of their confession of faith. In so doing, we either strengthen our witness or provide ecclesiastical refuge for those who are, after proper investigation, without canonical impediments to ordination, consecration, or reception, to the best of our knowledge. Our honest deliberations are not, of course, infallible.
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They let him declare himself Metropolitan of the west and establish their western ritte vicariate and then dumped him when the scandals about him broke.

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Metropolitan Evlogy of Milan, as he is now styled, was appointed to the See of Milan and Lombardy, when he joined the Holy Synod, with the title of "Bishop" and subject to the Holy Synod in Resistance. After the removal of his name from the Hierarchy of the Holy Synod on his departure from this appointment, he assumed his subsequent roles, independent of our Church.

These things occurred without any personal rancor, ugliness, or judgment, since our Bishops acted with absolute propriety and judicious discretion.

We have never had Western Rite parishes, or a Western Rite vicariate, under our jurisdiction. Nor have we ever had communion with, or in any way whatsoever recognized, the "Milan Synod."
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 They ordained and consecrated the notorious Portuguese bishops who went to the Polish Orthodox after they dumped them too.

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When two Portuguese Bishops, who were also consecrated by the Old Calendar group that consecrated Bishop Evlogy, petitioned to enter into our Synod, the Holy Synod declined to receive them. They were thus not consecrated by us or ever in communion with our Church.
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 ...The real conclusion you can make is that Cyprian and his Cyprianites and his [deletion] American buddies and his liberal bishops started the whole betrayal of the old calendar movement.

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Our jurisdiction operates on the basis of ecclesiological principles rooted in the historical, canonical, and Patristic witness, not on notions of political ideology ("liberality" or "conservatism," etc.).

If we adhere to any ideology, it is that of following the "Royal Path" of moderation in our actions and general policies. Our Hierarchs relate to one another as Orthodox Bishops, who are all equals. We show honor to the President of the Holy Synod and those holding administrative offices therein, in concord with Church tradition; however, we attribute to them no doctrinal authority over and beyond that of any bishop.

We hold in the highest esteem, with spiritual and personal affection of immensity, the holy example of Metropolitan Cyprian, who inspired and indeed groomed the majority of our present Bishops. However, these personal and spiritual ties exist within the context of shared traditional ecclesiastical authority. Likewise, we have neither a "buddy" system in the administration of our Church nor any agenda calculated to compromise other groups in resistance.

Responsibility attributed to us for putative errors and deviations by those who were at one time associated with us assumes that we operate on a papal system of assumed infallibility. We, like all humans, make errors, just as those formerly associated with us may make their errors. Responsibility for errors, whether ours of those of others, does not suggest any advocacy of such errors.
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Why your loyalty to these creeps, ought to keep you up at nights.

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Men of conscience sleep well; so well, indeed, that they need not concern themselves with the sleep habits or consciences of others. Our critic would do well to think about this fact, as well as the unrefined and un-Christian nature of his observation here.





Saturday, July 30, 2011

Laurus Stinking Judas

where did the quote come from?

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Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM
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Do you remember?

After the 2007 signing of that union, Laurus said in Kursk: "Oh! those
terrible zarubeshniki (anti-communist ROCOR  'white Russians'), what
troubles they gave me!.... thank God!.......I WAS NEVER ONE OF THEM!"

This was in one of your rather recent rmails - I think to Mrs. Alexander?


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To: Joanna Higginbotham <joannahigginbotham@gmail.com>
It was widely reported, with all of the other chaos, and happened just after Laurus signed that union paper, and THEN traveled around Russia, When he was in Kursk, he said this and other ...astounding statements
IT... might.... be recorded on Magerovsky's two sites....... (he was shocked by it, considering it a clear indication that...all along, Laurus was, to some degree or other,  a planted sleeper agent, and had been just biding his time, until things were clear for him and the other pro-Moscow plotters, to make their move)..

But since this Kursk statement  was embarrassing to the unionist traitors HERE, I assume, that they did not report it, and not in English.

Especially the part, 'thank God, I was never one of them!'.......... What a stinking Judas was Mr. Laurus Schkurla!!!... of thrice-cursed memory!

Daniel.

Saturday, April 2, 2011

Book by Vladimir Moss Fall of ROCOR

SHARING: About this new book by Vladimir Moss in England- (Some observations after reading it)-

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http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/downloads/299_A_HISTORY_OF_THE_FALL_OF_ROCOR.pdf

Having just read this very long text, by the author, Vladimir Moss (who thinks he knows all, about all subjects!), through to it's bitter end, I have only a few over-view observations:

1) most likely, much of the events, personages, documents, etc, which Moss refers to or quotes here, are more or less true......* instructive to read, THOUGH we can't be certain of his 'facts', as he has proven himself to be very biased & opinionated & unfair, & sometimes even a LIAR, and ....unstable himself, an effete intellectual SNOB living in his ivory tower, as to his own...ever changing.... jurisdictional loyalty (he has been with a number of jurisdictions, leaving most of them, by condemning each one, as 'not Orthodox enough!"

2) however,ODDLY and illogically, he is very biased in favour of the RTOC Tikhon-Pasechnik's entity, referring to it (alone), as THE only canonical & valid continuation of the pre-union ROCOR, etc.   ...i.e. Moss here reveals himself as a very petty party-HACK propagandist for his (current) favorite Russian fragment jurisdiction, while defaming all others, especially that of ROCA Met.  Agafangel's

3) he continues his long term attack upon the SIR synod,(conveniently forgetting his own glorious Tikhon Pasechnik's failed attempt at joining RTOC to it,  but when he was rebuffed and the SIR instead recognized ROCA under Met. Agafangel, THEN Tikhon suddenly  condemned the SIR as 'heretical'!!!) portraying it as heretical and unOrthodox & uncanonical...and because ROCA and it are in fraternal communion, that the TAINT of their SIR 'heresy' has also infected and rendered ROCA as, ALSO....automatically...100% ..heretical and uncanonical, etc.- A radical and extremist position that MANY Orthodox do not hold to...indeed everything seems to be, automatic, to Mr. Moss, with no room in his highly regimented & limited brain, for any differences of opinion or expression, etc. ...anyone who doesn't think EXACTLY like Prof Moss, is...'in heresy'.

So, in conclusion, I have found this text both of some historical interest and some value (especially in his exposee of KGB and MP plots and conspiracies, etc.), but I just cannot trust his views en toto. He has too many axes to grind and too many pre-conceived yet unsubstantiated ....guesses, as to what has motivated various people, especially so, is he very unfairly biased and prejudiced against ROCA.

And too, Vladimir Moss has the mind-set of a perpetual sectarian schismatic, not someone on the Royal Path or in a balanced view of the Orthodox Faith. He is a sectarian, PERIOD!

My final question to Mr. V. Moss: IS THERE ANY Orthodox jurisdiction, other than your current favorite one, the RTOC, that you approve of, and which you will STAY in???...and how long before you anathematize RTOC?

4) Moss  continues his long term super-legalistic, PERSONAL & selective  interpretations of 'the canons' , using SOME of them, as his weapons against rival jurisdictions, as ROCA, whom he sees,  as counterfeits  to his precious & all-perfect  Tikhon Pasechnik's RTOC. In such activities, how is he any different than the KGB's MP? They use the canons in exactly the same fashion, and to the same ends-i.e. to divide and destroy the faithful.

5) laughably, he seems to not see virtually ANYTHING deficient or....KGB related or suspicious about his RTOC or wonderful perfect  Mr. Tikhon Pasechnik ,a total product of soviet culture,  even though, many others have found many suspicious connections between that man, and the KGB.

6) why doesn't Mr. Moss address the very serious objections to his Tikhon Pasechnik, of the two escaped RTOC bishops ,Bps. Ireney and Dionesy, who fled RTOC and Tikhon, and have been received into ROCA (*from what I read, they have stated long lists of wrongs and unOrthodox behaviour in Mr. Tikhon Pasechnik....none of which accusations, Moss even seems to be aware of, or is he?...though they were all over the Russian internet, not that long ago).

7) If we could hear the FULL story of all thisrecent Russianj church, especially of ROCOR, history,....,such  as seen from Met. Agafangel's perspective, (& I have read some of his memories and views on all this), we would get a VERY different picture of many of these events and quotes,  and one which shows, in our heroic Vl. Agafangel,  a very Orthodox, a very honest, and a very long-suffering servant of Christ and of Orthodoxy. And many around our Vladyka Agafangel can attest to this goodness and sincerity in him.

But, just my personal observations about V. Moss and this his latest offering...

He pretends to care only for 'the facts', but in reality, he is just another clever propagandist..

Rd. Daniel Everiss